The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to complain about it.
As John Stuart Mill said, 'The Stupid Party'.
Is there any actual reason why Iain Dale is so respected & taken so seriously? Seriously, what the fuck is he for?Whenever anyone points out that he is in fact a shite blogger, his only response is to boast about how many people read him, using inflated figures.Well, by that line of "argument", he admits that Total Bollocks (oh, sorry, Total Politics) isn't a fraction as good as the Sun or the Daily Mail.He occupies his position limpet-like, simply as a virtue of having got there first, while those of more worth have to labour in obscurity.Haven't seen someone so blown out of all proportion this side of Devil's Kitchen.PS-Before anyone starts, I realise that I'm not a good blogger. But at least I admit it & don't strut around claiming to be a big man.
Ok, that's 2 ad hominems. Any chance of a smidgen of analysis of why you think the BNP is correctly described as "Right wing"
"Tom Paine" (snigger).
Basically you are with us, or you believe that socialism is great.Because here is the moral argument, ladies and gents: if you believe that your morals are superior to everyone else's, then carry on.If you believe that your morals are no better than anyone else's, then you are a libertarian and should join us.If you believe that you have some kind of moral superiority over everyone else, then go and join another party; but don't ever argue that you are a humanist: you are a totalitarian cunt.And the vast majority of you in the blogosphere are precisely that type of cunt. For those who are not, the Libertarian Party is here and—you know what?—it is now going to start making waves.The rest of you—you who view humanity as your slaves (socialists and Tories)—you are all the worst type of bastard and I hope that you die, quickly but painfully.You are scum.Our morality is right because we allow you to live your life as you want. Nothing else allows that. And I really hate you.No, really: you are scum.Some of you are going to say that we should protect the stupid, because they do not understand the consequences. You believe that your morality trumps theirs. Fuck you: you are scum.Some of you are going to attempt to bring up various nefarious practices, e.g. dentistry. You think that you know better than everyone else. You, too, are scum.If you believe that the human race needs your guidance, then why not declare yourself dictator and have done with it? Because, what you are saying is that you—you—know better than anyone else what their aim in life should be.And that makes you a totalitarian. You may not start killing Jews just yet, but—hey—cripples are a bit of a gene-pool facer, eh?Either yhou are a libertarian or you are totalitarian: it's time to declare your affinity. If you are a stinking authoritarian, bugger off and die. If you are a libertarian, you know where to sign up...If you are not with us, then you are scum. It's really simple, Scum, get on with it. You scum. Just declare yourselves: say, "I know better than you" and let's have done with this pussy-footing around.Just say that so that we libertarians can deride you for the scum of humanity that you are. Fuck you: may you die slowly and painfully.
Can I just be clear (before I delete it) - is that last post from a genuine idiot or someone taking the piss out of one?
Please don't delete it Paulie, it's one of the funniest things I've read in a while.
Oh. So that's you crossed off the list of possible pisstakers that could have written it then?It's the sort of thing that you hear people say when they're talking to themselves on the bus. Care in the community....
I love it when posh boys say the word "cunt." You can almost imagine them anticipating the long spanking they are going to get from nanny for being a very naughty, dirty little man.Heheheh.Bless.
"If you are not with us, then you are scum. It's really simple, Scum, get on with it. You scum. Just declare yourselves: say, "I know better than you" and let's have done with this pussy-footing around."Just say that so that we libertarians can deride you for the scum of humanity that you are. Fuck you: may you die slowly and painfully."Talk about forcing people to be free ...
Not you either Sadie? The list shortens further.I'll just run the name 'david brough' through the ZaNuLieBore database to see if we get any hits. Should have the thick shithead in a soundproof room by midnight all being well. If only they knew how close to the truth they were.
"Some of you are going to attempt to bring up various nefarious practices, e.g. dentistry."Shit, that's exactly the point I was going to make. That's me told...
C'mon Paulie - you're absolutely right to label these ahistorical fuckwits as stupid but make an argument, why don'tcha? If you don't, I'm going to have to and right now I've had too many vodkas. I can barely fucking see right now...
Wow, it's turning into a Guido style comment thread.
For a bit more serious argumentation on this, see Tom P:"if adherence to these types of policies makes a party "left-wing" then many mainstream political parties of Right and Left have been left-wing. And what about today? Presumably the Tories are currently a bit left-wing because they support nationalisation of certain banks for now. ... This shows that actually policy positions - even big ones like favouring public ownership of banks - don't tell us everything. The ideas behind the policy matter too.This also tells us why this is such a stoopid debate. If you define someone's politics by the means that they advocate to achieve their ends then you will end up with one view of how political parties are aligned. If you define them by their objectives then you end up with with an entirely different perspective."
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