Monday, November 05, 2007

Nothing will ever be the same again

Rise like Lions after slumber
In unvanquishable number -
Shake your chains to earth like dew
Which in sleep had fallen on you -
Ye are many - they are few.
In thirty years time, don't forget where you first read about the The British People's Alliance, will you?


Tom said...

There has been some interesting coverage of this party at Harry's Place today. But, this blog aside, none at all anywhere else.

David Lindsay said...

Grow a pair, as they say in America.

We stand for something distinctive, which we know is able to bring together the best in each of Britain's three political traditions.

You - the Euston Manifesto Group, the Henry Jackson Society, and so forth - also stand for something distinctive, of which you believe that the same can be said. Indeed, you believe that it cannot be said of our position, as we believe that it cannot be said of yours.

But we are prepared to put ourselves to the test honestly at the ballot box, i.e., in the form of a party.

Are you? If so, then where is your party (especially now that Oliver Kamm says he wants to stand for Parliament again, at Wantage against Neil Clark)? And if not, why not?

Frit? I think so. So go on, then: prove me wrong. Grow a pair. Set up a party. All else from you is wind, to be blown back at you. And it will be.

If the neocons don't want people to vote for us (and why would they want that?), then what alternative are you offering? Two, soon to be three, parties that you have stolen, but none of which, even then, really suits you? Or a party of your own? If the latter, then where is it?


You tend to try and sell yourselves (absurdly and dishonestly, but there we are) as the voice of public opinion against the elite.

Well, doesn't that public opinion deserve an unambiguous voice at the ballot box? Where is that voice, so that no voter ever again faces the prospect of choosing between an Old Labourite, a High Tory and a Lib Dem?


In opinion polls, the determined non-voters are now never lower than 34%, and sometimes as high as 38%, but are factored out for headline purposes. We are trying to reach that huge potential electorate.

Are you, the diehard neocons of the same persuasion as Oliver "Vote Tory To Unseat An Anti-War Labour MP" Kamm (who'll never be a Labour MP or a Labour peer after that) and Douglas "Vote Labour Because The Tories' Vice-Chairman Wasn't As Unyieldingly Pro-War As I Was On Question Time" Murray (who'll never be a Tory MP after that), also trying to reach those disenfranchised? If so, then where is your party?


Anonymous said...

All great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice ... the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.

Coming to a beer garden near you...

David Lindsay said...

Glad to see a Eustonite, albeit an anonymous one, admitting your real ideollogical and organisational roots.

So, if you neocons over at the Euston Manifesto Group (old Stalinists and Trotskyists), the Henry Jackson Society (old stooges of apartheid South Africa and Pinochet's Chile), the "Centre for Social Cohesion" (merely the person of Douglas Murray) and so forth don't want people to vote for us (and why would you want that?), then where is your party?


Paulie said...

I'd like to say that, on behalf of everyone who signed the Euston Manifesto, every member of the Henry Jackson Society, and the entire neo-con conspiracy, that your initiative has completely wrong-footed us all.

I doubt if we will recover from this blow.

Er, what does 'grow a pair' mean, you intellectual titan?

David Lindsay said...

It's an American expression. Think about it. Not too hard, mind. Not your kind's style.

You think that the electorate is beneath you, and you think that you have all the best arguments from Leo Strauss, from Ayn Rand, from Trotsky via Max Shachtman, &c, to back up that view.

But you won't actually articulate it, and then seek to marshall those resources in your aid when challenged. Why not?

If you DON'T think that the electorate is beneath you, then, not least because none of the three parties is neocon as such and they are all dying out anyway, where is your party?

After all, isn't it a favourite conceit/"noble lie" of yours that you are articulating popular wisdom against elite folly? Well, then, why not ask the people directly? Or is the electorate beneath you after all, but you won't say so out loud?

Either way, frit.

Paulie said...

I'm not sure that I've understood a single point that you've made yet David.

The world is full of at least a dozen people who will take you seriously.

Why don't you go and yak away to them instead? It will make both of us happier?

Anonymous said...

David doesn't publish critical comments on his blog.

I reckon he should grow a pair.


David Lindsay said...

I do so all the time, or at least as often as I receive them and they are not obscene. If that is not very often, then you can draw your own conclusion.

JuliaM said...

"I'm not sure that I've understood a single point that you've made yet David. "

That's because he hasn't yet made one... :)

mikeovswinton said...

Paulie; I'd stick to Soul Music, Football and politics on this blog if I were you.