Friday, June 08, 2007

To be going on with

Not having any time, I'm only able to publish the thoughts that would normally precede a fully thought out post at the moment.

So, here's the latest:

Is it possible to credibly argue for a Basic Income without having an ID Card scheme in place first?

Let me know what you think?


alabastercodify said...

I'd say your post is begging a question.

If you're asking an entirely neutral question, the answer's "no" -clearly you'd need a foolproof method of proving you identity, which as it would only need to be used once a month maximum could be based on having a card with biometric information.

If you're implying that anyone who argues for a CBI and against THIS government's ID card plan (with it's associated database intended for a range of purposes, which can be added to by statutory instrument, which carries an unspecified amount of information and which is also tainted by the government's abuse of other databases and their refusal to implement rigid safeguards) is being necessarily inconsistent, then the answer is "yes".

In fact the answer's "Yes, but couldn't you have worked that out for yourself?"

Gadgie said...

Apart from begging the question - yes it is possible as long as you are prepared to accept there will be a lot of fraud. With an ID card scheme you will just have to accept that there will be a lot of fraud AND a large network of ID card forgers.

Do the benefits outweigh the disadvantages? I would say yes. Fraud will always exist.

alabastercodify said...

Not to mention the incidental point that with a CBI in place, the fact that everyone will have a guaranteed income means that sanctions for fraud can be truly meaningful.

Instead of losing credits to which you were not entitled anyway, and then paying off any fines at an achingly but inevitably low rate, you will lose money that is yours by right.